wasting my time on this forum

[Rmonik]

I know the feeling man. But being 18, it can't be that hard to pass those exams, you're still in high school then. (feels really weird to say that, in belgium, high school = college and college = high school)

[JannikR]

(feels really weird to say that, in belgium, high school = college and college = high school)

Hehe it's the same in swedish. Really annoying.

Oh and don't worry about it. I'm now doing my bachelor thesis after 2,5 years of studying sound design at college, and I'll tell you this - it's a damn joke. I've learned sooo much more sound design from Dave, the people here at the forum, other forums & articles and simply just fucking about and experimenting in reason. So whenever you think "time wasted" here, instead think "time invested" here. You learn so much more than you think by just scouring around the forums.

[JannikR]

Can't speak for any other university than mine, and here it was shit. Högskolan i Skövde. Sound design specialized in video/computer games. In Sweden it's pretty much "fuck the practical bits, theory is most important derrrr". Even if I pass my bachelor thesis, there is no way in hell that I'll get a job with this. If you don't have any portfolio, then you're nobody
What might be added though is that when I started this program had only ran twice earlier. I think it's much better now overall.

[JannikR]

Well in the academic propaganda world: it will give me a job withint the game industry as foley artist/sound desiger/mixing engineer. This can also be applied to the film industry, since sound design for movies and games are pretty much the same, just with a different approach.
In the real world: The only thing this degree gives me is a slightly higher salary. This doesn't really apply in Sweden, but degrees have a bigger weight abroad. And what could be added is that I don't think this applies when working by contract (freelancing) - the thing with this is that very few game and film studios have in house sound designers, they most often hire freelancing ones.

The most important thing this education has given me though is contacts - it's not something the school gave me directly, but thanks to it I've been able to meet other interesting students, and now we're a couple of friends who've gotten together and created a company. And thanks to this I'm most likely going to have a job by summer.

Sound designing and foley is really fun though, I'll tell you that

[BPT]

[BPT]

Nah, I got nothing against how this thread started, I just found the tangent it ended up on masterfully boring.

[JannikR]

The guy asks, this guy answers.

And as always sir bro,

warbl garbl

[b2darizzle]

this looks like a job for the Hate Board

[Rmonik]

And your answer was actually quite useful to me too, Jannik, since i'm also going to study music. In belgium though most schools have a great reputation (i thought scandinavian schools had too?), i'm probably going to the film academy to study sound.

[JannikR]

Good Yeah, schools here are fine in general, it's just that in a new industry like this the academic world isn't really there yet. And since unis in Sweden need to have a certain level of 'academic bullshittery', they forget that the practical work is so much more important. You need to make sure that, even if the school has a good reputation, you can make use of that knowledge in the "real" world.
I was really interested in this: http://www.vfs.com/programs/sound-design but as a Swede it kinda pains me to have to pay for school..