your questions on how to get your music out there!!

[izotonik]

imo until you get a comfortable net presence, you gotta do what you can to increase it.
then it will reach a certain point that becomes more comfortable.. and other people will help you. like promo channel owners that heard about you and like what you do. if you have net presence and send good stuff to a label, they might even heard about you.. and your work is something to consider.

[runemopar]

Well yeah, you're 100% correct, but you're also assuming that they aren't amateurs to begin with. I mean I'm an amateur, but reel me back 8 or 9 months amateur. I don't feel "right" judging their stuff, but it's obvious they care less about the music than using it as a tool to get famous....

I think we've completely derailed the discussion D: I'm officially a thread-jacker

[izotonik]

there are lots of super recent dubstep projects, that have 1year. the production is decent, not amazing. the producers claim to have 15, 16, 17, 18 yrs old. no more info. no releases at all.. or some self releases or 1 or 2 tracks on shady labels.
a good amount of yt views, sc followers, people posting their tracks on tumblr. what are they?
they are not pros for sure! they are lucky that the other kids listen to they noizy stuff and hype it online.......

people that started like 3 or 4 years ago and evolved. made cool tunes, some releases and net presence. what are they?

[runemopar]

I'm not sure what your point is because you said the production is "decent" ... Go look at what you were doing when you first started out, let's say the first 4 tracks you made. Let's say that you stagnated at that level up until this point. That's what I'm talking about. If you are dedicated you get a whole lot done in 1 year... If you don't actually care about the music you're probably not gonna get anywhere. It's like the DJ that's not that good, but thinks people should come to see him instead of wanting to hear the music.

[izotonik]

my point is that in some genres, the recent producers get lots of online attention. their production is average and they have 2 or 3 nice tracks (imo)...
there's a total anonymous dubstep project that I found once, with 2 tracks on souncloud, filled with comments. and spreaded on 3 or 4 yt promo channels. wow. how does this happen?

more net attention that some quality house, techno and psy producers.. amazing.

[runemopar]

They're riding the dubstep popularity wave mostly... The mainstream is a powerful thing... But what I'm saying is that 4 years of experience doesn't make you "not recent." If you do production for 6 years, and never market yourself, then come out into the open and start putting out your stuff, you'll still be regarded as "recent" because it's only as far as the public eye can perceive.

[izotonik]

sometimes I check the youtube join date of these projects: 2010, 2011. if they claim to be 16, 17 years old... they are very recent producers.
anyway.

make music for children. be popular online.
make music for adults. better try your luck offline. lol

[JellyAdotMeyer]

i've been racking my brain against at least a part of this for a while now, i only want to people to see my stuff at this point, i do think tho that its worth it to give people something different and new, right now there's million dubstep producers (which makes me happy) but if you want to stand out in that community you've gotta deliver something unique. one idea i've been toying with recently is to post my stuff on the parts of internet where normal ppl don't go like 4chan, but this is because i'm also an animator. the other thing i'm trying to see if it works is to consistently post on places where people are talking, like this forum =P those are just some thoughts i have

[ConfusionGrows]

True that! I've released a free EP, but it hasn't done that well largely because people don't know about it

Which is a shame as it's pretty good ReSet.

[lolaberlin]

What about approaching it strategically and being able to control (to an extent and depending on the work involved)
the amount of views/listens/likes/reads. I mean how many of you are collecting their listeners email adresses
(or fb/twitter) and inform them about latest releases.

It seems alot musicians really just hope for fans, but when it comes to marketing their music
its viewed as evil and best left to others. (e.g. the label).

I mean there is a clear cause and effect in this game and without knowing about your music the people
can´t like or dislike it... if they then become fans is a different question alltogether..