In the night [DUBSTEP]

[0oshwavyo0]

Working on this remix for a forum member. Got the track to that point where I thought some feedback could help. You know the deal this is a very rough mix btw (I haven't even eqed the drums lol) so please don't just tell me "the mix is horrible", say something specific if you must.

http://soundcloud.com/0oshwavyo0/in-the-night-wip

EDIT: yay 100 posts

[Darcey]

THE MIX IS HORRIBLE! jk... The synth you have in the beginning, as well as after the drop, (not the pads) needs to come up... it's interesting but lingering in the background too much. That sweep leading up to that last drop could come up as well, it's supposed to be there to add tension that disperses with the drop but atm it's too weak to incite any tension. I liked the bass in the drops, very nice, but you might wanna think about having a bass (or a better bass if I'm just missing it) for the "verse" sections. The mix seems like it needs something else to hold it together better. It's going well, but it's definitely a work in progress.. I shall refrain from commenting on the drums since you haven't mixed them yet. Keep at it, I like it^^

[0oshwavyo0]

Thank you sir ya ik, im gonna do a whole mixing session before the final release. Thanks for the feedback

[Saigonshredder]

Hello! Well maybe you could change that pitched up "In the night". Something more dramatic, maybe a vocoder and distortion. Call and response. Meaning, you got the untouched line and then Alvin the chipmunk responding. maybe some delay and a longer reverb tail to go with the response. The dub bass tone is killer. What are you using? Maybe some rhythmic variation with it instead of just "kick - womp - kick - womp..." Try "kick - womp - kick - wo-womp - kick - womp - kick - wo-wah-wah". Doesn't have to be this. Just some more interesting rhythmic changes was what I was getting at. Cheers!

[0oshwavyo0]

When u say call and response, what exactly do you mean? Just like the regular in the night, followed by the fcked up sample? If u could give me a better example of what u mean, that would be cool. As far as the bass variation, i plan to work on the drop more, so I'll get to that. Thanks for the feedback and that all the drop synths are in massive, the wahh, the reese, and the pad.

[kromodynamik]

I agree the vocals could have more variation than pitch shifting—you could cut them up, stutter them, slow them, etc. through the track. The beginning kind of drags... By :40 it's nice. The build up is great. I can see what others say about the drop needing a bit more power. The whole track feels like it moves very slowly. Maybe you could add (more) percussion or something else that plays at a rapid pace to add energy to things. Or, in the other direction you could play with the slowness, and trip up the listener. 2:45 nice build up. Drop at 3:00 is better to my ears. Ending was abrupt, you could break it down more and lengthen it.

I enjoyed the power of the riffs and the thudding feel of the track. I do think you could use more "wub" in things, but that's just how I like my dubstep personally. It's a good WIP.

[0oshwavyo0]

Thanks ya thats now how the the track will end, thats just for now cuz i didnt wanna bother with the outro until i had a solid track. And I have found a new love for programming percussion, because making those 808 snare rolls was extremely fun tbh. I hadnt considered that it moved to slow, but I'll take that into consideration. I've been workin on one of those cliche skrillexy vocal chops, to go with the "call and response" idea, so its like really cliche sounding at the moment haha, I think it'll turn out well though. Also about more wubs, that second 16 bar section with that filtered reese I'm planning to make it one of those like complextro kinda really "wubby" things, so I hope I wont dissapoint. i'll post the next version in this thread soon

[burgerinthemist]

I like how this song starts out, but I can agree with those who say it drags on a little, variation in the intro would be welcome. The drop is cool, but I couldn't really tell whether you were going for liquid or hard dubstep... The first synth would make a really cool liquid dubstep drop, in which case you wouldn't need that much more power, maybe some sub, but not too much. The second growly wobble seems kinda out of place as I was expecting it to be far more liquidy, so maybe some work on that is needed, perhaps if you lowpass it a little to make it more subby and have a plucked melody over it, then continue with the chords and so on, to give it a much more chilled feel.
Or alternatively, you could slap on some huge synth in the drop with a massive buildup and turn it into some sort of epic brostep (the good kind) song, but imo that requires a lot more effort and i don't have much experience in that area so i can't really help you there...

Overall, really cool song, I like the vibe but the dynamic between the synths seems a little off, with some work this could become truly awesome, regardless of where you decide to take it.

P.S. the mix sux

Happy producing,
-Burger

[0oshwavyo0]

Haha see the thing is I dont have much experience with liquid stuff lolol. I was going for a sort of hybrid lol, but I'll work on it

[Saigonshredder]

When u say call and response, what exactly do you mean? Just like the regular in the night, followed by the fcked up sample? If u could give me a better example of what u mean, that would be cool. As far as the bass variation, i plan to work on the drop more, so I'll get to that. Thanks for the feedback and that all the drop synths are in massive, the wahh, the reese, and the pad.

Call and response is just that. literally. You start with one "phrase" (the call) and you follow it up with a second "phrase"(the response"). As if two keyboardists are trading licks back and forth or two guitarists playing and trading off. In your case you've already have it in place. the "Response" is the pitched up sample that followed the un-pitched sample line( the call). Hope that helps.